1: ななし 2019/05/07(火) ！16:52:07.14 ID:iP9R2
ボックス愛用者集まれ!
4: ななし 2019/05/12(日) 13:44:19.47 ID:nUNNkYjS
最新のボックス形状のモデルって何があるの？
8: ななし 2019/05/24(金) 23:50:54.77 ID:cL+pmjio
>>4
Dunlop CX200, CX200Tour
ボックスの割に比較的よく飛ぶ
Dunlop CX200, CX200Tour
ボックスの割に比較的よく飛ぶ
15: ななし 2019/11/25(月) 13:26:02.43 ID:OBGeekrk
>>4
スリクソンの2.0/200シリーズとプレステージ、ストライクvs位しか完全なBOXはないんさじゃないの？
後ProKennex Ki Q+ Tourとか。
プレステージも次作はちょっと形状が変わるらしいけど。
16: ななし 2019/11/26(火) 17:50:08.72 ID:OT0LGlQr
>>15
土居が小さい身体ながらスリクソンの2.0を使ってケルバーと対等に打ち合ってショットの威力に遜色がないのを見るとボックスでパワー不足の印象はないです。
土居が小さい身体ながらスリクソンの2.0を使ってケルバーと対等に打ち合ってショットの威力に遜色がないのを見るとボックスでパワー不足の印象はないです。
17: ななし 2019/11/27(水) 11:11:36.31 ID:4Cb9rFWc
>>16
うーん、別にパワー不足と書いたつもりはないんだが…
只各メーカー共純粋なBOX形状は剛性不足とかテンポの速いテニスには合わないという所でハーフBOXだったりラウンド気味のBOX形状が増えている、という所はあるんじゃないかな。
別にBOX形状を否定してる訳では無いんだけど、Wilsonは他のメーカーよりも早くプロストックのフレームを固くしだしたらしい。
npro98位からハーフBOXで市販品も出しているし、BOXのデメリットも考慮して形状を作ってるんだと思うよ。
その辺の試行錯誤の成果がフェデラーの復活とプロスタ97なんだと思う。
5: ななし 2019/05/12(日) 14:37:55.80 ID:9t2LR2Ia
今はトップスピンでハードヒットの時代なので、フレームを厚くする必要があるわけで、フレームを厚く出来ないボックス形状は時代遅れ
これからはボックス形状のラケットを作るメーカは無いのではないかと思います
これからはボックス形状のラケットを作るメーカは無いのではないかと思います
妥協案としてはウィルソンがリリースしているプロスタッフの半分ボックス、半分ラウンドでしょうな
ボックス形状は打った時のしっかり感がすごく気持ち良くて、私個人も大好きなラケットなのですが、時代の流れで淘汰されてしまうのなら仕方ない
ただ中古市場にはワンサカあると思うし、趣味で使うという目的ならこういうスレも有りかなと
6: ななし 2019/05/16(木) 01:49:14.43 ID:mUggP+U/
>>5
日本のトップジュニア〜プロレベルではボックス形状で活躍している選手はかなり少ない印象です。スレ立てといて何ですが、パワー不足の日本人にはあまりマッチしていない印象。
ただATPのトッププロなどは依然として大半の選手がボックス形状を使っているので、まだまだ世界の檜舞台ではボックスの活躍が見られそうです。
日本のトップジュニア〜プロレベルではボックス形状で活躍している選手はかなり少ない印象です。スレ立てといて何ですが、パワー不足の日本人にはあまりマッチしていない印象。
ただATPのトッププロなどは依然として大半の選手がボックス形状を使っているので、まだまだ世界の檜舞台ではボックスの活躍が見られそうです。
9: ななし 2019/05/25(土) 00:31:41.10 ID:4ktBPCLw
ぶっ飛びラケットブームが終息しつつあり、ボックスが再びブームになってるイメージありますね。
各メーカーがボックス出してきてますしね。
海外選手で新たに活躍し始めた選手にもボックス多いですし、日本のジュニアも徐々に増えてますよ～。
各メーカーがボックス出してきてますしね。
海外選手で新たに活躍し始めた選手にもボックス多いですし、日本のジュニアも徐々に増えてますよ～。
10: ななし 2019/05/25(土) 20:14:55.45 ID:kk3qYwsl
>>9
そんな単純ではないだろう・・・・・・
ラケット市場はもっと混沌としてる
そんな単純ではないだろう・・・・・・
ラケット市場はもっと混沌としてる
11: ななし 2019/05/26(日) 12:21:41.27 ID:p/Y/Hc5x
ラウンド形状でパワフルなボールを打つか、ミスの少ないボックス形状でしっかり強打していくか。
12: ななし 2019/06/13(木) 15:22:17.08 ID:Q+aZborC
競技志向ならラウンド一択でしょう
と思ってたが時にボックスに使うとスゴクイイ(´･ω･`)
と思ってたが時にボックスに使うとスゴクイイ(´･ω･`)
13: ななし 2019/06/27(木) 13:25:50.51 ID:qktWWFS9
自分はボックスでも特にトップライト＋重めのモデルが好きですね。
スピンは打ちにくくなりますが、スライスやライジングの抑え込みがしやすいです。
あと、これは主観ですが重めのラケットを効率よく振ることを考えてるとフォームが狂いにくいと思います。
軽め＋トップヘビーだと振れすぎる時があるので。
スピンは打ちにくくなりますが、スライスやライジングの抑え込みがしやすいです。
あと、これは主観ですが重めのラケットを効率よく振ることを考えてるとフォームが狂いにくいと思います。
軽め＋トップヘビーだと振れすぎる時があるので。
14: ななし 2019/06/27(木) 14:15:23.37 ID:dIAsOxbq
>>13
軽めの振れすぎわかります。
重めと同じフォームで打てれば軽いラケットの恩恵を受けつつ良い球が打てるのですが。
軽めの振れすぎわかります。
重めと同じフォームで打てれば軽いラケットの恩恵を受けつつ良い球が打てるのですが。
18: ななし 2019/11/27(水) 20:53:46.37 ID:so75M/Ka
最近の各メーカーはボックスのコントロール性を再評価してきてるんじゃないかな
一時期弾きばかり追い求めてポリで飛びを抑えるみたいな時期もあったし
そのせいでわざと弾きを落とした方向性になってた
その逆として従来だと弾きや飛びに問題があったボックスに弾く素材で作って
「見た目より弾くし飛ぶ」と評価されるボックスが増えた
一時期弾きばかり追い求めてポリで飛びを抑えるみたいな時期もあったし
そのせいでわざと弾きを落とした方向性になってた
その逆として従来だと弾きや飛びに問題があったボックスに弾く素材で作って
「見た目より弾くし飛ぶ」と評価されるボックスが増えた
19: ななし 2019/11/28(木) 18:42:59.89 ID:b3eqUbik
>>18
忘れたころに10年前の打感で革新的ラケットで宣伝。
でもメーカーはそんなことよりやることがあった。
それは個体差の改善。10年経っても±7gの重量誤差で別ラケット。
忘れたころに10年前の打感で革新的ラケットで宣伝。
でもメーカーはそんなことよりやることがあった。
それは個体差の改善。10年経っても±7gの重量誤差で別ラケット。
20: ななし 2020/02/18(火) 08:16:58.07 ID:ycXOmK62
今どきボックスってジジイかよ！w
22: ななし 2020/02/20(木) 19:57:00.45 ID:2FMTPYtO
>>20
今活躍してるプロって大半がボックスじゃない？
若手のチチパスやメドベージェフだってボックスじゃない？
今活躍してるプロって大半がボックスじゃない？
若手のチチパスやメドベージェフだってボックスじゃない？
ざっくりだけどボックス選手対ラウンド選手だとボックスのほうが勝ってる感じがする。
21: ななし 2020/02/20(木) 18:48:16.59 ID:BtYJosct
>>20
だんだん徐々に形状がボックスっぽくなってきてるんだな。これが。
だんだん徐々に形状がボックスっぽくなってきてるんだな。これが。
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